Springfield Armory SA-16

[Red*Lion]

I like the EMPs but wish they had a model with a shorter grip, either with the current barrel or a longer one. I'm surprised there aren't more scaled down 9mm 1911s out there. I wish there were. I guess the manufacturers don't think they will sell well.

IIRC, the frame and slide of the GI Model 1911 was made in Brazil. I remember when Springfield had a bunch of made in Brazil 1911s. They were inexpensive, though not all ran well. One models I read about only ran well with ball ammo.

The XD models have good reps. I guess they just didn't sell well.

I never heard of the VHS 2.

The VHS 2 is the Hellion bullpup.

[tomme boy]

I know a few of the guys putting Les Bers 1911's together. I shoot with one of them all the time. He caries a SA1911 even though he has several of Bears he put together. In one of the commercials you can see his toolbox with a SA sticker on it as he is fitting a slide to the frame.

Les does test fire every gun. But that is it. No accuracy testing for anything.

[SteyrAUG]

I know a few of the guys putting Les Bers 1911's together. I shoot with one of them all the time. He caries a SA1911 even though he has several of Bears he put together. In one of the commercials you can see his toolbox with a SA sticker on it as he is fitting a slide to the frame.

Les does test fire every gun. But that is it. No accuracy testing for anything.

Every manufacturer out there is going to have a competition grade model as well as an entry grade. This is so everyone can sponsor a top name shooter who can win with their brand. The problem is people who think the entry level models are the guns winning competitions.

Obvious exceptions exist, I don't think Les Baer is ever going to have a $500 budget model and I don't think Rock Island Arsenal is ever going to have a competition / match grade model.

[C-grunt]

I've had several SA 1911s over the years. All have been good shooters. My first was a Loaded model I bought in 2003 that was OD green with black controls. I loved that pistol and it was very reliable over thousands of rounds. Sold it when I got out of the Army and needed money. That's one of the few guns I really regret selling.

My other SA 1911s were lower end models. They weren't the best fit or finished, but they ran. Any of my SA 1911s I would trust to use for carry or home defense.

[shadowspirit]

I know a few of the guys putting Les Bers 1911's together. I shoot with one of them all the time. He caries a SA1911 even though he has several of Bears he put together. In one of the commercials you can see his toolbox with a SA sticker on it as he is fitting a slide to the frame.

Les does test fire every gun. But that is it. No accuracy testing for anything.

I guess he is either attached to his SA or prefers 1911s are not hard fitted.

[Slater]

FWIW, Military Arms Channel did a comparison between several current A2's. His chief complaint with the Springfield iteration seemed to be the handguards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWNFPBGvhFc