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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    I have Cheetahs. Definitely a gun better in .32 acp. .380 is slappy from them. I have a threaded .32 barrel, too.

    Wife and I both like them but she can't rack the slide. The new 80X might have a slightly milder spring and better purchase but it still isn't "easy". We tried one out at a store.

    I still occasionally carry an 81FS with 4.5 inch threaded barrel. S&B 73 gr averages over 1100 fps from my chronograph and on rare occasions I get a SS crack. Lighter loaded .32 acp is good fun suppressed or not.
    I like my Cheetah, but yeah, the .380 version’s recoil is out of proportion to its power level. And it’s snappy enough that it launched the orange ring out of the Trijicon front sight I had installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I like my Cheetah, but yeah, the .380 version’s recoil is out of proportion to its power level. And it’s snappy enough that it launched the orange ring out of the Trijicon front sight I had installed.
    That stinks.

    I learned that firing .380 wore a recoil spring faster than .32. The recoil spring should be replaced in 500-1k rounds depending what you're shooting if you want the frame to have the maximum life possible.

    I go by how hard the slide seems to come back and the length of the spring compared to a new one.

    A suppressor increases slide velocity. Luckily the guns will operate on very weak ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    That stinks.

    I learned that firing .380 wore a recoil spring faster than .32. The recoil spring should be replaced in 500-1k rounds depending what you're shooting if you want the frame to have the maximum life possible.

    I go by how hard the slide seems to come back and the length of the spring compared to a new one.

    A suppressor increases slide velocity. Luckily the guns will operate on very weak ammo.
    Yeah, I probably need a new spring. I’m hoping to snag an extra-power one sometime, but the older-ish guide rod diameter complicates that. I’ll likely eventually grab an 80x just for the upper half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    Yeah, I probably need a new spring. I’m hoping to snag an extra-power one sometime, but the older-ish guide rod diameter complicates that. I’ll likely eventually grab an 80x just for the upper half.
    Correct.

    Wolff gunsprings sells versions for the oldest version, but models with a suffix are different and nobody makes extra power springs for them.

    Allegheny Arms told me they wanted to make that happen.

    I do not think the 80x slide will fit on an older lower. Different recoil spring assembly entirely and slide lock / release lever. The barrels, as you know, swap across the Cheetah line.
    Last edited by Ron3; 04-07-24 at 12:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    Correct.

    Wolff gunsprings sells versions for the oldest version, but models with a suffix are different and nobody makes extra power springs for them.

    Allegheny Arms told me they wanted to make that happen.

    I do not think the 80x slide will fit on an older lower. Different recoil spring assembly entirely and slide lock / release lever. The barrels, as you know, swap across the Cheetah line.
    I’d have sworn I checked an 80x slide on a legacy gun. I’ll have to try it again and make sure before I throw money at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1168 View Post
    I’d have sworn I checked an 80x slide on a legacy gun. I’ll have to try it again and make sure before I throw money at it.
    I hope it fits...but pretty sure the boys at Beretta.net said, "no."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    I hope it fits...but pretty sure the boys at Beretta.net said, "no."
    Those dudes would know. Maybe I need to see if I can adapt the slide or guide rod to accept the Wolf springs.

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