Yes I think that's right. But no bottom "grip" screws. Also the MJD are supposed to have a bit more magazine well flare built in.Originally Posted by gaijin
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Yes I think that's right. But no bottom "grip" screws. Also the MJD are supposed to have a bit more magazine well flare built in.
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In for a penny in for a pound. I'm going to send the slide off to C&H and have it cut for the cross plate system. I thought about sending it to DSC to have him cut it for the Dawson/Staccato plates but the C&H is a little cheaper. Both seem to be available for a decent variety of optics so either wouldn't be a bad choice.
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I was able to handle one of these in a NOT so LGS, Flaggstaff AZ. How much do these guns weigh, it seemed pretty stout to me? They had two budget guns I was looking at and Im not 100% it was yours but it was hefty and made me think, this much be a pussy cat to shoot. But slide was smooth and at a quick glance seemed OK built for the money. Guy said they have sold a bunch and no issues. He was a huge fan.
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EAA website lists this version at 25.6 ounces. I haven't put it on my postage scale to verify.
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Then this was a different gun. It was close to 40 oz or more. Maybe my hand scale is off but not 15oz.
I had to go on the hunt, I thought Im losing my mind. it was a Rock Island at a cool 2.7 lbs =- 43.2 oz
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The Rock Island is a Para Ordnance clone or similar. Not an STI 2011 clone as is the case with the Girsan.
Internet rumor is that Tisas will have a 2011 clone out in January. If this is true and the gun is anything like the Raider, Sting Ray, etc it should be a good product.
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Here's the slide back from CHPWS. I had the factory Holosun K / RMSc cut replaced with the Cross Plate system. This plate is for a Holosun 509T.
The plate had to be installed slightly more rearward than C&H normally does because the factory holes would have caused issues with the new holes. The C&H tech said it shouldn't be a problem. Looking back maybe I should have had them install it in the usual stop and just drilled two new holes instead of four.
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Going Enclosed emitter, nice. Instal shoot and lets some pics of it installed. Your taking that gun to the next level.Here's the slide back from CHPWS. I had the factory Holosun K / RMSc cut replaced with the Cross Plate system. This plate is for a Holosun 509T.
The plate had to be installed slightly more rearward than C&H normally does because the factory holes would have caused issues with the new holes. The C&H tech said it shouldn't be a problem. Looking back maybe I should have had them install it in the usual stop and just drilled two new holes instead of four.
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One thing I've discovered is that something is wrong with the grip. As mentioned earlier, the gun works fine with Atlas mags and feeds fine (but doesn't always lock open) with Dura Mags. It doesn't work with factory Staccato mags or the handgul of squeezed and tuned Checkmate mags. These won't either latch in or stay latched in and are very loose inside the grip.
I had initially figured the mag catch itself was a little short and replaced the catch with a new one from Dawson Precision. This did nothing. The problem seems to be that the mag catch itself doesn't protrude far enough into the grip to properly catch the mag.
Something else I note is that the small retaining tab on the right side of the thumb safety isn't long enough to fully sit inside the retention groove in the frame. It is fine when the safety is off but is exposed when the safety is on. What's saving things now is that the joint between the right and left paddles is crazy tight. But I don't want to rely on this to keep things together over the long haul.
So in addition to a new grip the gun also needs a new safety. I guess while I'm at it it needs a tighter barrel bushing. These are all things EAA needs to identify and clean up in production.
It will be interesting to see how the Tisas/MAC shakes out but I'm pretty confident in saying that it will be the better gun.
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