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    Which setup to build for wife

    Should I build an ultra lite AR or AR PCC?
    What have you guys done for your wives??


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    I would think ultralight AR as blowback PCC kicks more. Bearing Delay may change that but they are expensive and yet unproven long term.

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    Forget PCC, a normal rifle using the same normal mags and 5.56 is where it's at.

    We put together a nice, light, effective 16" middy. It's set up exactly like she wants, has a light and RDS, and she's proficient with it.

    It IS the lightest rifle in the battery, by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViniVidivici View Post
    Forget PCC, a normal rifle using the same normal mags and 5.56 is where it's at.

    We put together a nice, light, effective 16" middy. It's set up exactly like she wants, has a light and RDS, and she's proficient with it.

    It IS the lightest rifle in the battery, by design.
    Same. BCM 14.5 ELW-F with MCMR. Everything is designed to be light but fully functional - Scalarworks mount, micro dot, M300 light, etc. No low mass components, just light barrel, rail, and accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Same. BCM 14.5 ELW-F with MCMR. Everything is designed to be light but fully functional - Scalarworks mount, micro dot, M300 light, etc. No low mass components, just light barrel, rail, and accessories.
    I started a thread in the general discussion forum looking for a light weight 14.5” upper. I ended up going with this BCM upper. Just got them in a few days ago and will hit the range tomorrow. It’s not just the great weight, but the barrel taper brings the weight back to the rear.

    My wife, all 5’4, 120lbs of her, feels like this is the perfect rifle for her (SBR’s aside).

    I’ll post photos of the setup of that thread later on. Scalarworks 1/3 Mount, primary arms md20 red dot, streamlight tlr1 hl light at 12 o’clock and bus pro backup sights.

    Everything you need, nothing you don’t.

    If 14.5” pin/weld isn’t your thing they have the same elw setup in 16”.

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    The 9mm blowback AR has surprisingly harsh recoil. Making it lightweight just increases that.

    A lighter but not crazy lightweight 5.56 is the better option. Just a pencil barrel and lighter handguard that isn’t longer than necessary. A 9” or 10” BCM would be a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    The 9mm blowback AR has surprisingly harsh recoil. Making it lightweight just increases that.

    A lighter but not crazy lightweight 5.56 is the better option. Just a pencil barrel and lighter handguard that isn’t longer than necessary. A 9” or 10” BCM would be a good example.

    Once again, I find ToddK posting what I was going to type out. The 556 gun imparts much less felt recoil than a 9mm (direct blowback) gun. The exception is if you want to buy her a MP5, because those are almost zero felt recoil. Delayed roller block might not be cheap, but its crazy effective.


    If you ever want to make new shooters love shooting, the MP5 with can is the perfect way to go. I teach classes on the reasons, but noise is a big warning factor that we are born with. Clap your hands near a baby and watch it jump and cry. Adults jump, but usually don't cry.... but adults still don't like the feeling of a loud dangerous violent object exploding near our head. Make the gun quiet, and we suddenly find that its not the recoil that is the huge issue, its the noise. We literally train people the wrong way if we aren't starting them out with foam plugs AND electronic muffs when it comes to centerfire weapons that aren't using cans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    The 9mm blowback AR has surprisingly harsh recoil. Making it lightweight just increases that.
    Agreed! Double the recoil and get a much less deadly weapon. Completely retarded.
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    Pencil carbine barrel, A5 recoil system. She loves it. The purple helps.

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    Thanks for the comments…. Going with the 556 with pencil barrel… it was my original direction but just wanted to confirm!!


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