https://bcprecisionballistics.com/
https://youtu.be/UqfpMxci168?si=YgXwwpik9wt3kGC1
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https://bcprecisionballistics.com/
https://youtu.be/UqfpMxci168?si=YgXwwpik9wt3kGC1
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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A propriety cartridge, from a boutique developer, with 100 FPS MV - which is less than 65 yards diff for equivalent ballistic performance - over a SAMMI cartridge, with the provenance of Hornady, and market momentum behind it?
No chance it achieves anything beyond being an interesting novelty that pops up on occasion...if that.
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Does it make a difference that 6mm Max uses standard AR15 bolts? Parent cartridge is 350 Legend. Seems pretty legit to me; all the performance charts show chamber pressures at or below 54k PSI.Originally Posted by MJN1957
ETA: The video does mention that 6mm Max is going through SAAMI testing right now.
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All the benefits of using a 5.56 bolt are great.
However, 6ARC is a DOD selected and procured cartridge which means for better or worse it isn't going anywhere.
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Does that mean it has to be broadly accepted by the US civilian market? Chances are we'll never see any USGI 6 ARC stuff anyway.
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
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An entity within DoD procured 6ARC ammo from Hornady, guns from Barrett, and suppressors from OSS/Huxwrk. Was it a POR, NPOR, unit purchase, or ??? Is there an existing IDIQ contract that ensures ammo and spare parts flow, or will 6ARC fade as budget priorities move on? I don't think 6ARC's future in the DoD is at all assured, let alone in the civilian marketplace.
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Using the 5.56 bolt is a bonus, to what end, however?
I'm not denigrating the round, I think it was a great concept when it was done before (.22 Nosler pops into mind), and I think it is a great concept now, but I also don't think it matters much.
It doesn't allow the AR-platform to operate at bolt-gun pressures and the vast majority of casual end users - who are needed to move the needle in the marketplace to elevate the round out of the 'novelty' arena - could not possibly care less. It isn't difficult to find any of the various sundry bolts to run any standard cartridge in a small-frame AR anymore. Plus, what drives market success is ready availability of complete firearms with consistent ammo and brass availability.
One only needs to cruise the end-user online platforms for a short time to discover the most significant 'problem' with the ARC - ammo and brass availability. If the comparative manufacturing monster that is Hornady can't meet consumer demand for a product it put a significant portion of the reputation of its brand behind, how will a smaller and relatively unknown developer avoid the same fate with a completely different concept?
Again, a great concept...but will it matter to anyone other than niche users?...and, if not, how long can it last?
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SOLGW is making barrels and complete guns... And they're shooting for $1.50/round for loaded ammo, which is comparable to ARC. I'm kind of excited for the round because it's just a barrel swap and maybe a few 350 Legend mags to convert over, and it uses the same powders as Grendel.
I do agree it'll be a niche cartridge, but that's just fine with me. I still think Grendel is a niche cartridge and I shoot it a lot. Grendel had a moment when Wolf steel cased ammo was $6/20, but those days are an unprovoked invasion behind us now. Maybe AAC making Grendel ammo will make a difference.
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If we're playing this game why not 6mm Grinch?
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As far as adoption goes, it hasn’t been widespread, if at all. I don’t doubt at all that some units are fielding them, but we’re not talking about 30-06, 9mm, .45, .308, 5.56, or even 6.5x55. Maybe we’re talking about 6.8spc, maybe not.
Its a cool cartridge, though. A lot going for it. All the same stuff that’s going for the topic cartridge, but that one can use TDP bolts.
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