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    Quote Originally Posted by prepare View Post
    You can put 8 pellets in a threat quicker than you can fire 8 rounds of 5.56...
    As long as think you will never miss a shot.

    And a single 00 pellet does not equal a 5.56 wound channel.

    Plus for most people the carbine is easier to shoot, while taking less training to get to and maintain reasonable proficiency.

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    I think it is an excellent choice for less experienced shooters. Which is the majority of gun owners these days. If my wife had to defend herself, I would want her to point that blaster and blast. I have a youth 20g 870 that makes a good wife shotty with 00 buck.

    I have a Colt 10.5 by my bed but would never feel under gunned with my Benelli.

    Its good to take one to the range and see what destruction it does from time to time. It's impressive.

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    Recent owner of 1301, did not have a 'need' but a want. They are fun as phuck to shoot. Should a 'serious purpose' arise my glock or AR is my first choice, but a SG at the bedside can be a formidable weapon as well. As previously mentioned, and an advantage I never considered, is that they are a good weapon to take on intestate road trips, as I don't believe any states have any regulations regarding their use, including tyrannical shit holes like Ny /Nj/Ma/Ct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappabear View Post
    I have a youth 20g 870 that makes a good wife shotty with 00 buck.
    I see people talk about 20ga for lower recoil but I've only seen 00 buck in 3in at higher velocity when I've looked. I think it kicks harder than low recoil 12ga. Is there some 4 buck that is lightly loaded? I admit I don't pay much attention after I see 4 buck, as it's under the the 1 buck recommended minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    As long as think you will never miss a shot.

    And a single 00 pellet does not equal a 5.56 wound channel.

    Plus for most people the carbine is easier to shoot, while taking less training to get to and maintain reasonable proficiency.
    Not to mention a rifle has 4x the ammunition without reload. I love my 1301, but hard to argue a rifle is just a better all around fighting weapon.

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    Truth of the matter is most shotgun fight don’t go more than two rounds. As with anything else you have to put the time in on them and most won’t. It will stay loaded in the closet or the corner waiting for the day.

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    For me personally-there will never be a time where my defense shottys wont have a role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    For me personally-there will never be a time where my defense shottys wont have a role.
    Same. I would feel just as confident and comfortable with my 1301 as I would with any of my rifles or pistols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detmongo View Post
    Truth of the matter is most shotgun fight don’t go more than two rounds. As with anything else you have to put the time in on them and most won’t. It will stay loaded in the closet or the corner waiting for the day.

    It's funny 'cause it's true.

    A short (18 in, shorty stock) SxS with a light & two extra shells on it (optional) and a pistol on you for backup & you're plenty HD ready.

    Unless your concern is a home invasion by guys who have armor and REALLY are willing to push aside their dead to get you. That's kinda rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron3 View Post
    It's funny 'cause it's true.

    A short (18 in, shorty stock) SxS with a light & two extra shells on it (optional) and a pistol on you for backup & you're plenty HD ready.

    Unless your concern is a home invasion by guys who have armor and REALLY are willing to push aside their dead to get you. That's kinda rare.
    Another thing to look at depending on where you live and the political climate, defending yourself with a shotgun might be much easier to justify than using a Black Rifle. Imagine a leftist prosecutor making a huge issue out of using a weapon of War (because no one needs a weapon of war) to defend themselves. I keep a plain Jane 870 20” rifle sights Hogue youth stock on loaded with #4 buck. Hey Mr/Mrs prosecutor I used my youth modle deer gun to defend my self. It’s all bullshit but something to ponder depending on where you live.

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