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    Can’t tell if you mistook me for another poster or if you don’t know what a conspiracy theory is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ski View Post
    Can’t tell if you mistook me for another poster or if you don’t know what a conspiracy theory is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ski View Post
    6mm bullet in a hybrid case based off the 5.56, an enhanced bolt to handle the pressure, test LMT, KAC and Geissele to find the winner. Optimize ammo for an 11.5 to 12.5 inch barrel. Get a free float handguard and add a flow through suppressor on the end. I have a few candidates in mind for the other two as well. Where do I send the invoice for my consulting fee?
    Doesn’t work that way, the government can’t just issue a list of three companies it wants to test.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    Doesn’t work that way, the government can’t just issue a list of three companies it wants to test.


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    Oh I know. I think my post was taken far more seriously than intended.

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    USASOC just posted a message saying the 6.8 is banned from indoor ranges for the foreseeable future because the SDZ of the GP round is the same as a .50 cal. No mention of other ammo at this point.

    No one could’ve seen that coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wake27 View Post
    USASOC just posted a message saying the 6.8 is banned from indoor ranges for the foreseeable future because the SDZ of the GP round is the same as a .50 cal. No mention of other ammo at this point.

    No one could’ve seen that coming.


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    That’s neat. Can’t wait for the weapons (NGSW) and ammo to make onto some liberal lawmaker’s ban list.

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    Updates on roll out:

    "Soldiers with the 101st Airborne at Fort Campbell, Kentucky are the first to receive the Army’s new Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) system this week.

    On Thursday, soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 506th Infantry Regiment were equipped with the NGSW ahead of April training where they will practice with new equipment, according to Army Futures Command. The training will involve a train-the-trainer course to prepare NCOs to conduct follow-on training across the company.

    The Army also plans to field NGSW systems to a National Guard armored brigade in May.

    The two NGSW rifles, which increase lethality at longer ranges, will be used by close combat forces which have historically sustained “80% of the casualties in combat,” according to Brig. Gen. Larry Burris, commander of the Army Infantry School and Army Maneuver Center of Excellence in a brief to reporters in 2022. Other forces will continue to use the M4 and the M249 weapons systems.

    “For example, the company supply sergeant will continue to carry [an] M-4 or another weapon, not the Next-Gen Weapon,” Burris said.

    The XM7 will be the new personal weapon for soldiers across the Army and replace the ubiquitous M4 rifle, which has designs originating from M16s used by Vietnam War soldiers. The XM250 will replace the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, a 1980s-era gun.

    The XM7 weighs around 8.4 pounds, which is slightly heavier than the M4, weighing about 7.3 pounds. The XM250 is about 12 pounds, significantly lighter than the SAW, which weighs approximately 18 pounds."

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    Lets see if it passes field trials.

    Though right off the bat it seems guys in the 101st are saying the guns weigh more than they are advertised as. One dude on Facebook had the rifle and suppressor on a scale and it was just under 10 pounds. The XM250 was coming in around 14.5 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Lets see if it passes field trials.

    Though right off the bat it seems guys in the 101st are saying the guns weigh more than they are advertised as. One dude on Facebook had the rifle and suppressor on a scale and it was just under 10 pounds. The XM250 was coming in around 14.5 pounds.
    Add to that the weight of the larger mags and ammo, while decreasing ammo load out. Glad I'm out and not part of this.

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    This statement in and of itself should be one of two reasons that the people who approved this need their heads (or bank accounts) examined, the other being that many of your personnel won't be able to get the training time to get the most out of the new round. Don't even get me started on short statured or female personnel when LE struggles to get smaller folks to qualify on 5.56.
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