Federal 30 Super Carry

[C-grunt]

https://www.federalpremium.com/30supercarry.html

Federal has a new cartridge out called the 30 Super Carry. 30 caliber, 100 grain bullet, shot at 1150-1200 FPS. Holds 2 extra rounds per mag over a 9mm with less recoil.

I'm not viewing this as a 9mm replacement but i think it would be a great 380 replacement for sub compact guns.

[robbins290]

I been researching this round. I see the benefit over 380 in a micro pistol. But I was hoping for 762x25 ballistics in a full size duty pistol for woods work.

[VIP3R 237]

I been researching this round. I see the benefit over 380 in a micro pistol. But I was hoping for 762x25 ballistics in a full size duty pistol for woods work.

Looks closer to the 30 Luger ballistics.

At first glance I’m not a fan. It has less KE and expansion than a 9x19mm, and will undoubtedly cost more and be far less available. I also don’t think the gun frame sizes will be any smaller as it’s running higher pressures, maybe slightly thinner but why would a mfg tool up for such? (Unless demand really kicks off)

The only pro I can see is slightly higher magazine capacity and less recoil.

[Stopsign32v]

Looks closer to the 30 Luger ballistics.

At first glance I’m not a fan. It has less KE and expansion than a 9x19mm, and will undoubtedly cost more and be far less available. I also don’t think the gun frame sizes will be any smaller as it’s running higher pressures, maybe slightly thinner but why would a mfg tool up for such? (Unless demand really kicks off)

The only pro I can see is slightly higher magazine capacity and less recoil.

IF the pistol can be made into a true pocket gun (think Keltec P32 size or smaller) then I am completely on board and would use it for a backup gun while I carry my 9mm on my waist or a better than nothing gun for when I can't carry IWB or just want to be wreckless and going to get Chinese takeout so I don't want to holster up.

IF the pistol is the same size as a 9mm or not enough to pocket carry and it just holds 2rds more then completely count me out.

[Stopsign32v]

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/fe...0-super-carry/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGHxrE9HXBs

12 round capacity in a single stack 1911. 1911's aren't my thing but I know a lot of people like them so that isn't a bad thing...

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/blog/30-...new-cartridge/

[markm]

At first glance I’m not a fan. It has less KE and expansion than a 9x19mm, and will undoubtedly cost more and be far less available. I also don’t think the gun frame sizes will be any smaller as it’s running higher pressures, maybe slightly thinner but why would a mfg tool up for such? (Unless demand really kicks off)

The only pro I can see is slightly higher magazine capacity and less recoil.

This. The S&W shield (to me) is a true pocket gun... even with the extended mag I can put the gun with holster in my pocket.

There are so many good compact 9mm options, I can't see any logic in a weak caliber. Gun owners are often enamored with small/compact options even when they make no sense... I mean that IS the entire .380 shooter community. How anyone could carry that pathetic round and feel "armed" escapes me.

[Alpha-17]

I'll get laughed at for this, but I've barely convinced myself that a 9mm is worth carrying. Anything smaller and less potent? Nah, I'll pass. I might be proven wrong, but I can handle that.

[Stopsign32v]

I'll get laughed at for this, but I've barely convinced myself that a 9mm is worth carrying. Anything smaller and less potent? Nah, I'll pass. I might be proven wrong, but I can handle that.

I'm there with you. I prefer 45cal, reason being is if I'm only punching holes I want to punch as big of holes as possible.

However I mainly carry 9mm because for me personally I'm much faster with it and it holds a bit more. But I transition between 9mm and 45acp throughout the year, no other caliber.

[WillBrink]

https://www.federalpremium.com/30supercarry.html

Federal has a new cartridge out called the 30 Super Carry. 30 caliber, 100 grain bullet, shot at 1150-1200 FPS. Holds 2 extra rounds per mag over a 9mm with less recoil.

I'm not viewing this as a 9mm replacement but i think it would be a great 380 replacement for sub compact guns.

Already seen some ads for it online. No doubt they have gotten some gun manufacturers on board for production. I see two listed already.

Seems like a +p .380 to me, which "on paper" is not a bad thing. If it has the reliability of a 9mm as to penetration and expansion, and added capacity of .380, and or smaller pistols with superior terminal ballistics than .380, then it has potential to be a winner in my view. Cost and availability will be a big factor there as to any interests too.

Friends don't let friends CCW .380...

[TomMcC]

It's like a really juiced 32 ACP.

Wonder what the price point will be? With ammo so expensive will it be able to get a foothold in the market? IDK.