5.56 Barrel

[VLODPG]

Faxon was the worst barrel we ever shot. Poorly QPQ'd is my guess. Pappabear sent the POS back, and those clowns told us we'd shot 10,000 rounds thru it, but actual counts were no more than a few hundred.

Never heard of Kak.

FYI: https://www.kakindustry.com/

[5shank]

Been looking at the Ballistic Advantage and was wondering who you can trust to do a little business with? Have dealt with the less then truthful and would not like to repeat the process. In 5.56 what chamber cut do you guys like? Thanks!

[okie]

Faxon was the worst barrel we ever shot. Poorly QPQ'd is my guess. Pappabear sent the POS back, and those clowns told us we'd shot 10,000 rounds thru it, but actual counts were no more than a few hundred.

Never heard of Kak.

Having machined a Faxon barrel before, I can personally attest to their nitride being top notch. The problem is that to achieve the hard, rust proof types of nitride, it has to be done at extremely high temperature, and I can't imagine that's good for the barrel. It's like 1200 degrees for hours on end that these barrels get dunked in.

Now think of this. It's the heat that kills barrels, not the friction of the bullet going down the pipe. In a zero heat environment, a barrel could last indefinitely. Pistol barrels almost do, especially something like .45 ACP. Any finishing done to a pistol barrel is solely to prevent corrosion and make it look nice.

On a rifle barrel, though, the biggest factor in longevity is heat over time. And there are thresholds where you go much above a certain temperature and it's going to dramatically reduce lifespan, and obviously those thresholds are well below 1200 degrees.

[DG23]

Having machined a Faxon barrel before, I can personally attest to their nitride being top notch. The problem is that...

Pretty sure they have engineers that know how to do it properly. Also sure you are not one of them...

[okie]

Pretty sure they have marketing execs that know how to do it properly. Also sure you are not one of them...

FIFY

Do you really think it's a coincidence that nitride on centerfire barrels is exclusively a phenomenon of the commercial firearms market?

[okie]

Pretty sure they have marketing execs that know how to do it properly. Also sure you are not one of them...

FIFY

Do you really think it's a coincidence that nitride on centerfire barrels is exclusively a phenomenon of the commercial firearms market?

[DG23]

FIFY

Do you really think it's a coincidence that nitride on centerfire barrels is exclusively a phenomenon of the commercial firearms market?

The brake rotors on my truck are Nitrocarburized.

Very, very similar to the Nitride you are talking about granting a slightly different process...


Between the resistance to heat damage and the corrosion resistance they are superior to 'regular' run of the mill / cheap rotors. Zero warpage so far after almost 30k of abuse. Look and 'feel' like brand new rotors still.

[MegademiC]

Having machined a Faxon barrel before, I can personally attest to their nitride being top notch. The problem is that to achieve the hard, rust proof types of nitride, it has to be done at extremely high temperature, and I can't imagine that's good for the barrel. It's like 1200 degrees for hours on end that these barrels get dunked in.

Now think of this. It's the heat that kills barrels, not the friction of the bullet going down the pipe. In a zero heat environment, a barrel could last indefinitely. Pistol barrels almost do, especially something like .45 ACP. Any finishing done to a pistol barrel is solely to prevent corrosion and make it look nice.

On a rifle barrel, though, the biggest factor in longevity is heat over time. And there are thresholds where you go much above a certain temperature and it's going to dramatically reduce lifespan, and obviously those thresholds are well below 1200 degrees.

Theres more to unpack here than im getting into, but thats not how metallurgy works.

At a high level, erosion and temper are not the same thing.

[1168]

Two of mine have Ballistic Advantage Hanson profile barrels, (one 5.56, one .308) and they both shoot very well. They are moderately priced.

Super pleased with my BA barrels. They are “fast” for their length and shoot cloverleafs. 2/3 were purchased used.

[opngrnd]

For their price point, and maybe even a little beyond it, I've also seen good things with BA.