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    Euro with the m-M4c-aga once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Here is a drill we run at work. We call it the Navy SEAL drill as one of our officers who is a former SEAL introduced it to us.

    Target is a silhouette with an 8 inch circle target zone. We use a TQ-19-AZ target.
    Distance is 50 yards.
    3 magazines with 5 rounds each.

    Drill starts standing. On the buzzer fire 5 rounds. Reload. Then move to intermediate position (ie kneeling). Fire 5 rounds. Reload. Move to prone. Fire 5 rounds.

    Par time is 25 seconds. Every second over is +2 seconds. Every shot out of the 8 inch circle is +5 seconds. Every shot off of silhouette is +10 seconds.

    A good time is under 40 seconds
    This looks cool and way less running so it should get more people attempting it. I’m going to do it tomorrow.

    What’s your time?

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    OP,

    What is the target for Drill #3?
    Great thread idea!


    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCsampson View Post
    OP,

    What is the target for Drill #3?
    Great thread idea!


    Thanks!
    Whoops. C-Zone IPSC. Just updated the OP. Thanks for catching that.

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    Drill #2 and drill #3 video links not working for me. What is the distance for drill #2?

    ...Dig this thread a ton, btw. Thanks, Euro.
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    Drill #1 Modified Navy Qual

    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Here is a drill we run at work. We call it the Navy SEAL drill as one of our officers who is a former SEAL introduced it to us.

    Target is a silhouette with an 8 inch circle target zone. We use a TQ-19-AZ target.
    Distance is 50 yards.
    3 magazines with 5 rounds each.

    Drill starts standing. On the buzzer fire 5 rounds. Reload. Then move to intermediate position (ie kneeling). Fire 5 rounds. Reload. Move to prone. Fire 5 rounds.

    Par time is 25 seconds. Every second over is +2 seconds. Every shot out of the 8 inch circle is +5 seconds. Every shot off of silhouette is +10 seconds.

    A few minor mods based on ability and location at the time. This was shot was a 16" rifle gas length (15" rail) and Vortex 1-4 optic. The distance was a slightly less than 50 yards, I would call it 45, which might not sound like much of a difference, but it is. The trigger is a stock USGI type semi auto trigger. I was using a comp, which worked very well. I don't have much question that a "good" trigger would have made a world of difference. The magazines were NOT grabbed from secured pouches, rather, they were laid out with easy access. In addition to the above, I was shooting a steel 8x11 target which obviously gave a lot more room for error. Last, but certainly not least, I wasn't able to go prone. I fired 5 standing, 5 kneeling, and then went back to standing (reloads in between). I don't feel all that bad about standing instead of going prone as prone shooting is easier for just about everyone. Anyway, not exactly according to the rules, but the variations are out in the open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    Here is a drill we run at work. We call it the Navy SEAL drill as one of our officers who is a former SEAL introduced it to us.

    Target is a silhouette with an 8 inch circle target zone. We use a TQ-19-AZ target.
    Distance is 50 yards.
    3 magazines with 5 rounds each.

    Drill starts standing. On the buzzer fire 5 rounds. Reload. Then move to intermediate position (ie kneeling). Fire 5 rounds. Reload. Move to prone. Fire 5 rounds.

    Par time is 25 seconds. Every second over is +2 seconds. Every shot out of the 8 inch circle is +5 seconds. Every shot off of silhouette is +10 seconds.

    A good time is under 40 seconds
    I just ran this twice.

    My best time was ~28.35 (I don’t remember exact but it’s on video) with one miss. By my
    Math that’s 39.35?

    My second was ~31.5 sec with no misses. Which I guess is 43.5?

    I’m out here at the Range I’m gonna try one more time cuz I know I can get 25 with no misses.

    ETA ran it a third time. 24.42 with no misses. Got it all on a GoPro and 2 witnesses.
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 10-07-17 at 16:57.

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    video now in OP
    Last edited by Eurodriver; 10-08-17 at 11:25.

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    Eurodriver, can't say when it'll be, but because I *know* I'm gonna suck I'm gonna offer my own scores for posting as a benchmark about "you REALLY suck if you can't beat Tactical Newman." lol
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    Cool! Good marksmanship drill. Did you try it support sided too by chance? In my case, I see better when I shoot left, but I run the gun better on my right, I suppose partly because of the controls on the rifle. I'm cross eyed dominant which is a PIA sometimes.

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