SHOT Show 2015 Pictures (From SMGLee)

[ALCOAR]

So heat mitigation and improved grip offered by polymer covers isn't an issue for "professional" users?

The "professional" user sadly doesn't get to take advantage of the rather mind pondering benefits of all the various neat looking polymer covers/rail panels since they have a very famous history of going tits up immediately when used in combat.

Oddly enough a pair of $15 base model Mechanix gloves provide an equal solution to the latest high speed rail cover.

Some of us have the liberty of putting things on our rifles that others simply don't have due to their circumstances not allowing it.

[C4IGrant]

So heat mitigation and improved grip offered by polymer covers isn't an issue for "professional" users?

No, not really. There are these special, exotic things called "Gloves" that mitigate the need for panels.

I haven't used panels in YEARS and have somehow survived.




C4

[Waylander]

The "professional" user sadly doesn't get to take advantage of the rather mind pondering benefits of all the various neat looking polymer covers/rail panels since they have a very famous history of going tits up immediately when used in combat.

Oddly enough a pair of $15 base model Mechanix gloves provide an equal solution to the latest high speed rail cover.

Some of us have the liberty of putting things on our rifles that others simply don't have due to their circumstances not allowing it.

Overlooking the smartass nature of that question, I'll be more than happy to answer it for you....

I have no bias in regards to any rail...be it this one or any of the other new ones. It's kinda a waste of my time to ponder rails when I exclusively run LMT monolithic tops.

Tit for tat, my friend. I asked a non-cosmetic, functional question and you reply with a smartass answer about the "mind pondering benefits of all the various neat looking polymer covers".

No, not really. There are these special, exotic things called "Gloves" that mitigate the need for panels.

I haven't used panels in YEARS and have somehow survived.




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Christ, I didn't know asking a legitimate question that potential customers may want to know the answer would stir up this much crap. I meant no disrespect to anyone, particularly professionals in the field. Gloves are your choice but not for everyone. Geissele's business decisions, while sometimes odd (remember S2S?) are their own to make.

[C4IGrant]

Christ, I didn't know asking a legitimate question that potential customers may want to know the answer would stir up this much crap. I meant no disrespect to anyone, particularly professionals in the field. Gloves are your choice but not for everyone. Geissele's business decisions, while sometimes odd (remember S2S?) are their own to make.

Oh, I don't think you post was that big a deal, but was just explaining that those of use with a lot of time running AR, AK, Suppressors, etc have learned that Gloves are must for any type of long shooting (as do our troops).

If you don't like Gloves, that is fine with me (and most likely everyone else).

The S2S is alive and well as the G2S and we sell them on a regular basis.


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[13MPG]

The "professional" user sadly doesn't get to take advantage of the rather mind pondering benefits of all the various neat looking polymer covers/rail panels since they have a very famous history of going tits up immediately when used in combat.

Oddly enough a pair of $15 base model Mechanix gloves provide an equal solution to the latest high speed rail cover.

Spot on. I have had covers come off plenty of times. The only ones I really trust are the ones from KAC. I would think that a properly attached screw on cover would be on as good as any back up sight.

No, not really. There are these special, exotic things called "Gloves" that mitigate the need for panels.

I haven't used panels in YEARS and have somehow survived.
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I could personally care less if any of my firearms show signs of use. You guys are both right about gloves, they do the job of protecting your hands from heat. Having very limited experience with the slick handguards I would think that having panels where you grip the handguard would help with traction as well as protect your hands from heat.

Any word on when the rail is going to be for sale? Grant, will you be selling them?

[forFREEDOM]

+1 on gloves for any type of rail system. I love these new Mechanix gloves.


Here are some close up shots of the HK416 version in 14.5" Sand Matte color:

These were contract by the DoD with very specific specs and requests. The same specs are applied to the M4/AR version minus the QD.


Unlike other rail systems, the Geissele rail I received for review was discretely textured. It felt very comfortable with a wood grain feel. Slots are beveled. All edges are smooth.


To me, the standard rail felt pretty light. The Geissele rail is 0.2 oz lighter per inch.







I can't say it's the best hand guard. But quality it next to none and it's definitely the most comfortable system I've ever felt. I have a match in a couple weeks. I'll let you know how it goes.

[montrala]

I think that this rail was not made to be light. Looks like (at least for me) that it was made to be strong, without unnecessary weight.

[ALCOAR]

Bar none the nicest looking HK416 I've seen....granted I'm a long rail fan, but that Geissele rail makes that rifle's form flow soooo much cleaner at least to the naked eye. Thanks for sharing with us.

I'll try and tip off Bill to this thread, perhaps then he can help us out with any questions or availability dates/prices.

[Waylander]

Everything Geissele touches turns to gold

So...can we count on you for an unbiased review of the rail?

The "professional" user sadly doesn't get to take advantage of the rather mind pondering benefits of all the various neat looking polymer covers/rail panels since they have a very famous history of going tits up immediately when used in combat.

Oddly enough a pair of $15 base model Mechanix gloves provide an equal solution to Magpul's latest high speed rail cover.

Some of us have the liberty of putting things on our rifles that others simply don't have the ability to do because their circumstances won't allow it.

Believe it or not they do serve a purpose for people that aren't just after "neat looking" rail panels but functionality and not constantly having to deal with gloves.

Modularity and options...one reason I suppose Noveske found a need and realistic market for them. I'm sure Geissele knows what's best for their customers though.

[ALCOAR]

So...can we count on you for an unbiased review of the rail?

Overlooking the smartass nature of that question, I'll be more than happy to answer it for you....

I have no bias in regards to any rail...be it this one or any of the other new ones. It's kinda a waste of my time to ponder rails when I exclusively run LMT monolithic tops.