Golden Tiger 7.62x39 124gr FMJ

[Redstate]

Check this out re performance per DocGKR: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19885

[xjustintimex]

I have used this stuff on a lot of pigs and have had less than stellar results. While it works... I don't use it anymore for pigs

[AndrewWiggin]

Thanks for the link. It sounds like it would be reasonable to conclude that most lead core 7.62x39mm will do reasonably well, although that isn't specifically stated. The only cartridge that is explicitly stated to perform poorly is the Russian M43. Commie soft and hollow point loads were said to perform poorly but I presume that was in comparison to Western expanding or fragmenting bullets, not in comparison to lead core ball.

Once again, I'm happy that I stocked up on a bit of M67 when it was cheap.

[Redstate]

You are welcome.

[tpd223]

From having access to local autopsy reports I know that there is a dramatic difference between the tissue damage results of most average 7.62x39 rounds and the Hornady loading with the V-Max type bullet.

[BufordTJustice]

From having access to local autopsy reports I know that there is a dramatic difference between the tissue damage results of most average 7.62x39 rounds and the Hornady loading with the V-Max type bullet.

I've talked to Hornady over the phone and the only tipped bullet they make for 7.62x39mm loading is actually an SST and not an A-Max. I would expect a 123gr SST to do quite well.

[Redstate]

I've been trying to get the Hornadys for a few months now and can't find any. In any event, sounds like an excellent round.

[tpd223]

I've talked to Hornady over the phone and the only tipped bullet they make for 7.62x39mm loading is actually an SST and not an A-Max. I would expect a 123gr SST to do quite well.

Thought so, that's why I said "type". I will note that two of the autopsies I have seen with that bullet that they acted like large .223varmint rounds, complete fragmentation except for a bit of the base.

[Dr_Thanatos]

7.62x39 that does not yaw wounds similar to 9mm FMJ.

I'd like to disagree with this statement. 7.62x39 has substantially greater wounding capacity than 9mm, even in cases where the bullet does not yaw. I have found injuries 3-4 inches away from the bullet track in wounds with a 7.62x39, and had at least 2 cases where the bullet did not enter the thoracic cavity at all and still caused death by visceral organ disruption. That does not occur with a 9mm. The extent of tissue damage along the wound track is also much more significant in a 7.62x39.

In pigs, it may be different, but in humans, 7.62x39 does not wound similarly to a 9mm FMJ.

[DocGKR]

As mentioned here: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19885, when discussing 7.62x39 mm it is important to identify which projectile is being addressed, as their characteristics are highly variable. There is ample evidence both in OCONUS combat and in CONUS crime scenes that when 7.62x39 mm remains point forward without upsetting, the wounds are similar to those caused by 9 mm M882 ball. When the bullet upsets during tissue, then more widespread damage is noted.