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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Vickers View Post
    I've talked to some of my pro gun lawyer friends and they all say the same thing; there is very little if anything Obama can do with executive order in this case but they all fully expect him to push it to the limit...
    The fact that someone in the Justice Department probably had to explain this to Obama several times is a testament to the level of incompetence in the White House. BTW, welcome to GD.
    Last edited by Sensei; 12-19-12 at 01:01.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    The fact that someone in the Justice Department probably had to explain this to Obama several times is a testament to the level of incompetence in the White House. BTW, welcome to GD.

    It also further supports my supposition that he was absent the day they taught law in law school
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    I hope that whenever the NRA comes out, they come out fighting.


    This week, I'd imagine they're in their metaphorical ready/loadout room getting their shit together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Executive orders need to have some foundation in existing law. POTUS cannot use executive orders to create or modify existing laws. For example, the "sporting purpose clause" that gives the AG the ability to regulate the importation of certain weapons can be found in 18 U.S.C. 925 which is a law passes by Congress and signed by POTUS. Where is the language in the NFA that gives the President the authority to extend its provisions to semiauto weapons?

    Seems they didn't have a problem with the semi auto Street Sweepers that were made by SWD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Vickers View Post
    word is the Obama administration had the ATF a couple months ago do a study to see the feasibility of making all semi auto assault rifles NFA items-
    All prior to knowing the outcome of the Presidential Election and the recent rash of "mentally ill" mass killings. Hmmm . . . . more convenient coincidences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    All prior to knowing the outcome of the Presidential Election and the recent rash of "mentally ill" mass killings. Hmmm . . . . more convenient coincidences.
    I think he was pretty comfortable in feeling that he was going Even if he wasn't sure, there would have been nothing preventing him from telling the ATF to do a study. Who knows if Romney would have even been told an ATF project like this was on-going if he was elected.

    I don't know how long a "couple of months ago" is, but its likely not long after the Aurora shooting.. that is probably what sparked it.
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    Thanks for the heads up Mr. Vickers. I don't doubt that he's looking at every a angle he can to destroy the Second Amendment with his formerly "under the radar" and now obvious attempts. He doesn't have the authority to do this and Congress won't have the votes to pass any ban unless shenanigans occur, but this would bode especially ill for those of us in the LE business in crap states like NY exempted from current bans but unable to get ATF forms signed for NFA items. Thankfully for myself, I'll be getting out of dodge very soon.

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    If that flies, I can see Obama trying to get the Tax Stamp cost raised, hand in hand with the new requirments of registration.

    Could you imagine a $1000 fee, and draconian application inspections? It all doesnt seem too farfetched at this point........strange days have found us.
    Last edited by Split66; 12-19-12 at 02:44.
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    he will try for sure he has nothing to loose and everything to gain

    I say look at health care ! nobody wanted it yet somehow it happened

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    This ought to cause the NRA ILA's bank account to soar off the charts.

    How many AR makers are there? Like 20+? There's going to be multi 6 digit donations coming in, if they think their businesses are in jeopardy.

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