Alert; possible executive order information

[Sticks]

I will say one thing.

If we get past this presidency without any infringements on our second amendment (and I have faith that we can).

I will be extremely proud that we pulled through, and that we stood up for our rights.

It's an uphill battle for them, and for us. I think we can win. With faith, I think we will.

We can get past this.

Everybody pray to whatever dear and fluffy lord you have that he's right.

[tb-av]

I will say one thing.

If we get past this presidency without any infringements on our second amendment (and I have faith that we can).

I will be extremely proud that we pulled through, and that we stood up for our rights.

It's an uphill battle for them, and for us. I think we can win. With faith, I think we will.

We can get past this.

We the People probably could in theory. Our elected representatives have no deep desire to fight that fight though.

In the same way we have allowed our society to decay into drugs and violence, etc.. we have allowed our leaders to place themselves on pedestals.

If we pull this one off it will be just short of a miracle.

I will say that Gov. McDonald of VA has done an amazing job so far to stand up to the liberal gun grab.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...939_story.html

[Magic_Salad0892]

I will say that Gov. McDonald of VA has done an amazing job so far to stand up to the liberal gun grab.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...939_story.html

Isn't that proof that we have people on our side?

[williejc]

Federal grants to states often have strings attached. The future could see so-called firearm safety strings attached to federal funding.

Some gun companies may cut and run in order to gain favoritism giving them exemptions to new rules or to be seen in a favoritable light by investors. Manufacturers that enjoy law enforcement contracts may be coerced to modify their products offered to civilians. Think Colt, Glock, Smith, and FN.

Magazine capacity limit possibly could be a number less than 10. Rifles magazines might be limited to 5 rds and handguns to 8.

The gun bill will have unprecedented momentum aided by politicians who fear being labeled as unreasonable, insensitive, and out of touch.

The best thing we can do is donate money to the NRA.

[tb-av]

Isn't that proof that we have people on our side?

Yes, but now look at it in context.

VA - before this we had Warner who was A rated and he has said screw it, he's done being gun friendly. Cantor(R) refuses to even answer a questionnaire from VCDL about his position on guns and that too was before this situation. Webb who just quit and was replaced by I believe F rated Tim Kaine.

So all within a matter of 30 days we went from leaning heavily pro gun to leaning very heavily anti gun.

I'm sure similar situations exist with other States. This is going to be like election number 2 for Obama so to speak. If he looses we don't win anything. If he wins, we loose big time. So this is a massive shift in our "representative potential". That's what really worries me.

[scottryan]

If it comes down to it, moving them to the NFA is better than having a new AWB.

It gives us a legal avenue to keep what we already have and buy new stuff.

I'm not going to pay $500 to $1000 for a high cap magazine in 15 years after a permanent AWB.

[Mauser KAR98K]

If it comes down to it, moving them to the NFA is better than having a new AWB.

It gives us a legal avenue to keep what we already have and buy new stuff.

I'm not going to pay $500 to $1000 for a high cap magazine in 15 years after a permanent AWB.

And if another mass shooting happens with weapon that wasn't registered as an NFA, or was an NFA, what is to stop the government to say F' it, we are coming to take them?

[SMETNA]

If it comes down to it, moving them to the NFA is better than having a new AWB.

ABSOLUTELY NOT

[Alaskapopo]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Why do you feel that way?
Pat

[SteyrAUG]

If it comes down to it, moving them to the NFA is better than having a new AWB.

It gives us a legal avenue to keep what we already have and buy new stuff.

I'm not going to pay $500 to $1000 for a high cap magazine in 15 years after a permanent AWB.

Instead you will pay $1000 in NFA taxes for every 5 magazine fed semi autos you own.

And who says they won't reclass semi auto rifles AND pass a magazine ban?

Additionally, at the HEIGHT of the Clinton Ban, AR-15 magazines weren't going for $100 let alone $500 or $1000.

Glock magazines hit $100 and HK USP mags pinged $125 but that is because there were far fewer of those compared to AR-15 magazines.

And finally, what have you been doing since 2004 that you still need more rifle magazines?

With PMags pinging at $40-60 right now, I'm selling off several and I'm still going to have about 600 AR magazines.