>Class 3 Laser Ownership?

[Reagans Rascals]

My question is, is there an actual law on the books that prevents civilians owning IR lasers Class 3 and up?

Or is it just an off-the-books regulation adhered to by the companies that produce them voluntarily?

Example... I cannot purchase a PEQ 15 from TVNC because I am not LEO/MIL and do not have an Agency PO.

The Disclaimer at the bottom reads:
"IR Lasers are restricted to Law Enforcement and Government sales only and cannot be sold to civilians. Purchase of IR Laser equipment can only occur at the Department, Agency, or Unit level. IR Lasers cannot be sold to individual Law Enforcement, Military, Government, or Contractor personnel. No exceptions. If you are a government employee and would like to purchase an IR laser, you must have your agency place the order for you. We do not make the rules, but we do follow them. These lasers are regulated by the FDA (Food & Drug Administration). Price inquires must include an email request from an official government or government contractor email address. All ITAR restrictions apply."

So I am asking, is there an actual, enforceable law on the books, or are they legal to have but just regulated to keep civi's from purchasing them, thus... if you do happen to get your hands on one you're more than fine to have it.

To me it just seems like a way to keep the price up.. being selective and keeping it from the masses raises value... while also limiting the bumble****s who do stupid shit with them like shoot them at planes at night...

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I'd like to know myself.....

[Allen]

http://www.fda.gov/radiation-emittin.../ucm118156.htm

TL;DR Version:
in 1968 the FDA was given the authority to regulate radiation producing devices. 21 CFR 1040.10 is what's pertinent to us in this case. While they aren't illegal, I think they are not sold to civilians as they don't have the requisite safety features that the FDA has determined are necessary.

Allen

[Reagans Rascals]

http://www.fda.gov/radiation-emittin.../ucm118156.htm

TL;DR Version:
in 1968 the FDA was given the authority to regulate radiation producing devices. 21 CFR 1040.10 is what's pertinent to us in this case. While they aren't illegal, I think they are not sold to civilians as they don't have the requisite safety features that the FDA has determined are necessary.

Allen

http://www.lasercompliance.com/us-regs.htm
http://www.lasercompliance.com/us-noncomply.htm

It seems like the regulation is based solely on the manufacture of laser devices being offered for sale, and the import and export of lasers, but not to whom you are going to sell it within the US...

From what I can see there is no actual regulation stating a manufacturer cannot sell them to the general public, or even who they can or can't sell them to in general.

So long as the system has been classified and accepted by the FDA and complies with specific guidelines of manufacture and safety.... then the item is able to be purchased by whoever wants it.... I'm sure PEQ series IR lasers are certified and have been accepted under FDA guidelines since they were given an NSN.... which means... legally I should be able to purchase one....

but I assume companies try to avoid the liability and only sell to specific people/agencies to avoid any issues further down the line

[Renegade]

The companies that make them are regulated as to who they can sell to.

If you come into one and it is not stolen, you are GTG. Many folks already own them and do not know it, it is in tools, electronics, etc.

For gun use you do not really want one anyway. They are way to bright. The Class I lasers are much better and more useful.

[Iraqgunz]

There is nothing that prohibits ownership. The companies that produce them are regulated by the FDA and they can only sell to LEO/military.

This subject has been discussed several times here in this area. That I know for sure.