Any Reason to Choose Glock 17 over 34?

I currently have a Gen 2 G19 and Gen 3 G17. Generally, the 17 (w/light) is my HD/travel pistol and my G19 is my carry pistol.

Does the G17 have any advantage over the G34 other than being .8" shorter and an ounce lighter? I feel the 17 and 19 are so close together that having both does not make a lot of sense, but I like having the light on a longer pistol. I think I would enjoy the 34 at the range.

If I replace it, the G17 will be passed to one of my sons. Ironically, my current G17 is a replacement for the G17 I gave to another son.

Thanks

Andy

Only other thing I can think of is price, if that’s an issue. 34’s cost more.


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1) If you are ever going to suppress it, I would not get the 34. Not because it can't be done, but because it turns into a yardstick. I had a suppressed 41 and it was stupid.
2) If you want to add an optic, the 17 is available in Gens 3/4/5 without the MOS cut (this allows you to have a direct milled).
The Gen 5 34 is ONLY available with the MOS cut, so you must use plate to add an optic (or the open emitter solar only Holosun), or find a Gen3/4 without the MOS cut.
3) The 17 can achieve similar barrel lengths to the 34 with an extended barrel. Or even an extended comp'd barrel.

At this point, unless you have shot them side by side, and prefer the recoil characteristics of the 34, the 17 on paper, makes more sense.

If you're running irons, get a 34. If you've accepted 2024 and have a dot, a shorter slide offers more advantages.

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If you're running irons, get a 34. If you've accepted 2024 and have a dot, a shorter slide offers more advantages.

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Red dots are a fad like big collars and bell bottoms:cool:

Andy

Check out how the G34 “feels” in your hands. The bit longer slide of the G34 might “feel” a bit less balanced. You might love it.
Another choice I would check is the G47, if you want to replace your G17 with one that gives you a few options.

I don’t care for the open slide on the 34 for anything other than a gaming gun.

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Check out how the G34 “feels” in your hands. The bit longer slide of the G34 might “feel” a bit less balanced. You might love it.
Another choice I would check is the G47, if you want to replace your G17 with one that gives you a few options.

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I agree that the G34 and G47 MOS models should be considered. They do offer options that non-MOS versions do not. I have a multitude of Glocks, including a G17, but I opted to get a G34 MOS and G47 MOS for the very fact that they offer the opportunity to mount an optic. With an optic and weaponlight, they make great HD/SHTF pistols.

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I don’t care for the open slide on the 34 for anything other than a gaming gun.

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The G34 Gen 5 no longer has the slide cutout above the barrel. Only the prior Gen 3/4 models do.

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I don’t care for the open slide on the 34 for anything other than a gaming gun.

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I remember C4IGrant shared the same concern here some years ago so you are in good company.

As pointed out, the Gen 5 guns have a closed slide, but there are more than enough uniformed 34 and 35 users to put that worry to rest for me.

Andy

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I remember C4IGrant shared the same concern here some years ago so you are in good company.

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There are a couple of threads here discussing G34/35 cutouts and potential for debris intrusion. LAV, Grant, an SME or two contributed. Probably worth finding if the topic is of interest. Those threads would be years old by now. I don't recall the conclusions, but I think it's most an issue for dirtiest & deployed mil application more than typical CCW or LE use.

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The G34 Gen 5 no longer has the slide cutout above the barrel. Only the prior Gen 3/4 models do.

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Originally Posted by AndyLate

I remember C4IGrant shared the same concern here some years ago so you are in good company.

As pointed out, the Gen 5 guns have a closed slide, but there are more than enough uniformed 34 and 35 users to put that worry to rest for me.

Andy

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I didn’t know that, I’m still stuck in Gen 3 world, good intel.

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<snip>, but I think it's most an issue for dirtiest & deployed mil application more than typical CCW or LE use.

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Absolutely, but I’d rather error on the side of caution, hence Colt over PSA.

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I agree that the G34 and G47 MOS models should be considered. They do offer options that non-MOS versions do not. I have a multitude of Glocks, including a G17, but I opted to get a G34 MOS and G47 MOS for the very fact that they offer the opportunity to mount an optic. With an optic and weaponlight, they make great HD/SHTF pistols.

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If you had to choose one today for HD, which one would you choose?

Another one to consider is the G45.
I have one (MOS version) and it has become my favorite handgun.

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I didn’t know that, I’m still stuck in Gen 3 world, good intel.

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Me too. But one day I will get a Gen 3 G34 because I like the sights and easier to access slide stop. I'm confident I won't get bubble gum in the slide opening, but I've been training for it by shooting Beretta's since the 80s and those are full open slides.

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Red dots are a fad like big collars and bell bottoms:cool:

Andy

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Word up! :sarcastic:

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Originally Posted by 202

If you had to choose one today for HD, which one would you choose?

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Probably would be the G47.

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Probably would be the G47.

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That would be my choice too.

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Originally Posted by 202

That would be my choice too.

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Could you elaborate? I’m confused by why there needs to be a 47.

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Could you elaborate? I’m confused by why there needs to be a 47.

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Parts commonality with the G19. With a G47 and a G19 you also have a G45 and a G19L all using the same recoil guide rod assembly.

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Parts commonality with the G19. With a G47 and a G19 you also have a G45 and a G19L all using the same recoil guide rod assembly.

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Cool, thanks. That makes sense.

Another plus for the 47; is that the slide is a little bit heavier than the 17 and that cuts down a little on the recoil. IIRC, the G47 slide weighs almost as much as the gen 5 G34 slide.

Like the above poster said, with a G47 and a G19.5 you can swap slides around as you desire.

Plus, Glock is discontinuing the G17 MOS in favor of the G47 MOS.
The non-MOS G17 will still be in production.

I'd just get the G34 to augment the G19 and G17. Keep, carry, shoot, and generally live with all three for awhile and later decide what to keep or give away. Personally, I've got all three (and even more Glocks) and have no plans to reduce my gun inventory or give any away.

The 17's slide being slightly shorter than the light means that it has some slight advantage if used in a contact shot situation, as the light can provide a small amount of standoff, while the 34 protruding beyond the light means that it would be easier to be pushed out of battery in the same situation.

I really wanted a 34 recently but sold it after shooting just over 150 rounds. It had more of a push recoil that just felt weird. I want that 47 now though, several others have said that it feels similar but softer than my 19 and 45.


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I am the opposite. I’ve been rocking a g34.3 for years as a training and carry gun. I also have g19.3 and g26.3. I just got gifted a delta point pro and was going to mill my 34, but decided to buy a gen 3 brownells dpp cut slide and built it and slapped dpp on it. It runs great so far. I’m trying to decide what gen 5 to get. G45 or 47 are what I’m looking at. I prefer the full size grip over the compact.

If using an X300, a 34 is still shorter overall.

Not mine.

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If using an X300, a 34 is still shorter overall.

Not mine.

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It's interesting the X300 is so much longer than my less expensive TLR-1. Not mine either:

https://i0.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandi...R_1_hl-g34.jpg

To be clear, the length of pistol + light did not drive me to think about a G34. It's just that running a light makes the OAL a non-factor between them.

Andy

P.S. I picked up a used Gen3 G34 and shot it a little this weekend. Time will decide if I keep all 3 - G19, G17, G34.

P.P.S. Folks hate the Gen3 grooves, but the 17/34 grooves fit my sausage fingers like they were made for me. The G19 gooves are another matter, but my G19 is a Gen2 anyway.

I just finished a brownells Glock 17 gen3 slide cut for dpp upper with all original Glock parts and griffin armament g17 threaded barrel. This is going ontop of my g34 frame for range work till I decide on a new gen5.

Looks great man. I’d buy it from you the 17/34 if you want to get ride of one. Love my Gen 3’s.

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It's interesting the X300 is so much longer than my less expensive TLR-1. Not mine either:

https://i0.wp.com/blog.cheaperthandi...R_1_hl-g34.jpg

To be clear, the length of pistol + light did not drive me to think about a G34. It's just that running a light makes the OAL a non-factor between them.

Andy

P.S. I picked up a used Gen3 G34 and shot it a little this weekend. Time will decide if I keep all 3 - G19, G17, G34.

P.P.S. Folks hate the Gen3 grooves, but the 17/34 grooves fit my sausage fingers like they were made for me. The G19 gooves are another matter, but my G19 is a Gen2 anyway.

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Looks great man. I’d buy it from you the 17/34 if you want to get ride of one. Love my Gen 3’s.

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I stole the pic from Cheaper than Dirt.

Andy

No bad choices either way, the point about having standoff w a 17 and WML is a good one. I prefer the recoil impulse, longer sight radius (if used w irons) and that there is less carbon buildup on the WML lens with the 34. Would recommend getting G34 holsters regardless for flexibility.


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My EDC is my Glock 35, 357sig which has a 6 inch barrel in it.

If I were going into a harsh environment, I would take a different gun Glock 31 gen 3 with a KKM Glock 35 length barrel, which would have the extended part of the barrel mag na ported.

I bought my son a G34 and it shoots very nice. Nothing wrong with adding a G to the stable. Im not a Glock guy but one can't deny their well earned reputation.

PB

If concealment is not an issue, I like my G34 over my G17. Both are gen 3's.

NYH1.

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Could you elaborate? I’m confused by why there needs to be a 47.

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I run 19s exclusively because
1. Im apparently a homo, and run rds
2. The recoil is quicker so I get more info during long, fast (insert gay "oh" noise here)strings of fire.
3. Its consistent for all uses
4. Its never held me back. Ive beat plenty of guys with weighted czs, the 19/17/34 differences are a waste of time. It doesnt matter - go get good. The gear wont change anything until youre nationally competitive (reliability being the only exception).

My son is 16 now and doesn't share the passion for shooting that I do. That being said, he does come shooting with me as I told him that I want him to know how to handle and shoot firearms, even if he doesn't make it his hobby. He's starting to enjoy it more now. Up until now, I've had him practice on a .22LR conversion for my G17. A couple of weeks ago, I let him shoot a G19, G17 w/red dot and comp, and a G34. Interestingly, he liked the G19 best and he shot well with it. He didn't like the recoil impulse of the G34.
I don't shoot the G34 any better than a G17, but did like the fact that the longer barrel didn't smoke up the front of my light as much. So, I added a PMM comp to my G17 which makes it the same length as the G34 and I'm really happy with that set up as a range gun.
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Nice P80s! Those are just effing fantastic.