The SHTF and you call your wife.....

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09-13-23, 20:14
ABNAK

The SHTF and you call your wife.....

She knows the couple of carbines or rifles to grab, but there are 4 labelled ammo cans to choose from: 1) Fusion MSR .223 62gr, 2) IMI 5.56 77gr Razor, 3) MK318, and 4) the vaunted "FBI Load" 5.56 TBBC.

You instruct her to grab two carbines and one of the ammo cans mentioned above (let's say 600-800rds in each). Which ammo do you tell her to grab? She's meeting you on your way out of the city so you two can seek an appropriate shelter. You *might* be able to come back and grab the rest but which can goes first?
09-13-23, 20:18
Disciple

Didn't we just have this thread?

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...lack-Hills-TMK
09-14-23, 05:13
ABNAK

Well no TMK, GD, or A1 in the mix. I literally have the four above sitting on a pallet in the gun room right in front, labelled and ready to go. Showed the wife which two carbines to snatch then she pointed to the pallet and said "I guess we'll need one of those too". Well yes, yes we will.
09-14-23, 05:18
Inkslinger

Unless she’s in a burning house, I’m telling her to grab all of them.
09-14-23, 09:08
markm

What is a "wife"?
09-14-23, 10:20
Defaultmp3

Whatever ammo the rifles are zeroed for.
09-14-23, 10:29
ABNAK

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Originally Posted by markm

What is a "wife"?

That which I must hide my expenditures from.
09-14-23, 10:30
ABNAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkslinger

Unless she’s in a burning house, I’m telling her to grab all of them.

Doubt she's gonna grab ALL of it. I want to keep it simple. She'd be hauling stuff out for quite a while!
09-14-23, 10:35
ABNAK

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Originally Posted by Defaultmp3

Whatever ammo the rifles are zeroed for.

That would be the Mk318. Might dig out the other can of it and make it a party.
09-14-23, 11:00
Inkslinger

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABNAK

Doubt she's gonna grab ALL of it. I want to keep it simple. She'd be hauling stuff out for quite a while!

It’s 4 cases of ammo. She’s not breaking down a pallet.
09-14-23, 11:09
kerplode

Lol! She'd probably tell me that I'm being paranoid, that she's not going anywhere, and if I want to mess with those heavy, smelly, old cans that I can get my ass home and dig in them myself.
09-14-23, 12:33
HKGuns

- Never trust a woman to do a man's work -

When I'm not close enough to home to do the job myself, I roll hot with more than enough to deal with stuff.
09-14-23, 14:14
StainlessSteelRat

Mine would ask me how much I've had to drink. I'd just go with whatever they are zeroed with. I generally roll with enough to get it done in any reasonable situation I might run into if I'm not close to home. Of course, the one time you don't is when the black swan takes a dump on you.
09-15-23, 18:14
MegademiC

It doesnt matter, but if I had to pick, tbbc.

The only caveate (sp?) Is that I dont know how accurate it is. If its 2moa or more, fusion.
09-15-23, 20:05
Todd.K

You need to FOCUS now, not when something bad is happening.

1) Pick one GO load that is reasonably accurate in your rifles.

2) Avoid hard to find loads unless you can afford to buy large quantities when it’s available.

2) Zero your rifles with it.

3) Shoot enough to confirm it functions in your rifles.

4) SHTF is no time to be jamming mags. Have a combat load of magazines already loaded for each rifle.
09-15-23, 20:47
ndmiller

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Originally Posted by ABNAK

She's meeting you on your way out of the city so you two can seek an appropriate shelter.

I never really understood this part, where are you coming from and going to?

I would be calling to say SHTF I'm on my way home arm yourself and the kids while I'm on the way. Leaving in a SHTF would be make us a bigger target for potshot amateurs on their turf during transit. Home turf is more secure, we know it like no-one else.
09-16-23, 17:47
fedupflyer

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Originally Posted by ndmiller

I never really understood this part, where are you coming from and going to?

I would be calling to say SHTF I'm on my way home arm yourself and the kids while I'm on the way. Leaving in a SHTF would be make us a bigger target for potshot amateurs on their turf during transit. Home turf is more secure, we know it like no-one else.

Think natural disaster or some event that you HAVE TO LEAVE your house.
09-16-23, 17:50
fedupflyer

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABNAK

She knows the couple of carbines or rifles to grab, but there are 4 labelled ammo cans to choose from: 1) Fusion MSR .223 62gr, 2) IMI 5.56 77gr Razor, 3) MK318, and 4) the vaunted "FBI Load" 5.56 TBBC.

You instruct her to grab two carbines and one of the ammo cans mentioned above (let's say 600-800rds in each). Which ammo do you tell her to grab? She's meeting you on your way out of the city so you two can seek an appropriate shelter. You *might* be able to come back and grab the rest but which can goes first?

It should already be staged and ready to go.
It should be something like, honey grab the blue bag and the green bag and meet me at XXX.
09-16-23, 18:02
henri

IF this insane unlikely event were to occur, I would just say take the dog out for a quick walk, make sure the doors are locked after you get in, I'll be home soon. Oh please, this SHTF fantasy nonsense is an exceedingly exceedingly super rare event that will almost never happen. Short of a nuclear event outside the country, which may lead to some panic, looting, etc, SHTF is not happening. Besides, what exactly is SHTF? Total economic collapse of the banking/monetary system? Massive nationwide electronic grid shut down? Your local sports teaming winning the ___world championship ? Seriously. These scenarios are fun to discuss and be inventive about certain precautions/actions, but in reality, not happening !
09-17-23, 13:12
ndmiller

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Originally Posted by fedupflyer

Think natural disaster or some event that you HAVE TO LEAVE your house.

Got it, but if an announced natural disaster (Storm, Dam Break, Volcano, Earthquake, etc) was causing me think about leaving my house, the scale of the disaster would preclude going anywhere better in a car. Sorry too hypothetical for me, we'd all be dead in this type of scenario anyway.
09-17-23, 16:08
fedupflyer

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Originally Posted by ndmiller

Got it, but if an announced natural disaster (Storm, Dam Break, Volcano, Earthquake, etc) was causing me think about leaving my house, the scale of the disaster would preclude going anywhere better in a car. Sorry too hypothetical for me, we'd all be dead in this type of scenario anyway.

Where do you get the idea that it would only by non-automotive transportation.

How about a train derailment that spills a chlorine or other toxic gas. You have about 10 mins to grab whatever you need a leave the house for an undetermined amount of time.
So you grab what you need and throw it in you vehicle and drive two towns over.
Happened in Ohio not too long ago.
09-17-23, 22:07
The Dumb Gun Collector

2 and 3
03-07-24, 17:29
SteyrAUG

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndmiller

Got it, but if an announced natural disaster (Storm, Dam Break, Volcano, Earthquake, etc) was causing me think about leaving my house, the scale of the disaster would preclude going anywhere better in a car. Sorry too hypothetical for me, we'd all be dead in this type of scenario anyway.

Yep, we evac'd from Hurricane Irma and it took 13 hours to go from Pompano Beach to Ocala, almost ran out of gas a few times due to traffic becoming a parking lot for hours. I knew I didn't want to ride out a record breaking potential Cat 5 but driving away from your problems has many of it's own problems. There were people who didn't get the same head start that I did that ended up sheltering in their vehicle on the turnpike when the storm made land fall. Gas lines were incredible. The whole state decided to evacuate and hotels were sold out all the way to mid GA and AL.
03-11-24, 11:45
Entryteam

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Originally Posted by ABNAK

Doubt she's gonna grab ALL of it. I want to keep it simple. She'd be hauling stuff out for quite a while!

joke's on you... most "wifes" cannot lift a 800 round box of ammo. LOL
03-11-24, 13:30
Diamondback

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Originally Posted by Entryteam

joke's on you... most "wifes" cannot lift a 800 round box of ammo. LOL

Hell, I'm a grown-ass man, admittedly one with a seeming inability to develop pectoral muscles despite multiple years of wright training trying, and *I* struggle moving 800 as a unit! A "Fat Fifty" full of loaded PMags in each hand, on the other hand...
03-13-24, 23:43
artoter

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Originally Posted by Inkslinger

Unless she’s in a burning house, I’m telling her to grab all of them.

LOL, I'm with you! Besides, my wife would not even be able to read or tell them apart, even if I had them labeled.